tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post2389155244090039264..comments2024-03-27T22:27:16.556-04:00Comments on It's About TV: Hogan's Heroes - the final episodeMitchell Hadleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08695771505209080030noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-20974269875739848352023-12-18T16:12:48.042-05:002023-12-18T16:12:48.042-05:00Once in a blue moon you can get a short glimpse of...Once in a blue moon you can get a short glimpse of Palm trees in the back ground. CBS studios. Gilligan Island film same location along with big brotherDaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12713281023835030527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-23739654237640324692023-06-22T19:58:27.511-04:002023-06-22T19:58:27.511-04:00Which argument, Lee?Which argument, Lee?Mitchell Hadleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08695771505209080030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-45484571545793445952023-06-22T10:16:07.007-04:002023-06-22T10:16:07.007-04:00the best person to p,lay Hogan in a Hogan's He...the best person to p,lay Hogan in a Hogan's Heroes movie would've been the great Bill Murray. Your argument is invalidLee Gibbonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03749497562026973192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-53625845316199451672023-05-29T19:17:02.412-04:002023-05-29T19:17:02.412-04:00As I recall from one episode, Schultz refers to hi...As I recall from one episode, Schultz refers to himself as a supporter of the Republic, if not the Kaiser. That means it was unlikely, though not impossible, that he was a Nazi, unless he joined out of convenience. Otherwise, it's quite possible they might have seized the company and converted it, and forced Schulz back into uniform. If Schultz passes through the denazification program (and the testimonials from Hogan, et al would have helped), it's conceivable he could have been put back in charge of his company. The U.S. had strong ecoomic motives for ensuring the commerical and economic success of West Germany, and if Schultz ran the company well, who knows?Mitchell Hadleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08695771505209080030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-16946723472015478902023-05-26T18:49:11.244-04:002023-05-26T18:49:11.244-04:00Unless he was not a Nazi party member and ticked o...Unless he was not a Nazi party member and ticked off a local party remember because he simply wanted to make toys and was slow to switch over to War Materials. <br />A.A.Forringerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078083347637089533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-9074038812708950882023-04-19T23:32:22.419-04:002023-04-19T23:32:22.419-04:00That would have been an awesome finale!That would have been an awesome finale!Assassynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15834957433723921989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-1268304697156822212023-04-15T19:01:56.199-04:002023-04-15T19:01:56.199-04:00Very interesting! And you're right - "D-D...Very interesting! And you're right - "D-Day" would have been an excellent way to end the series, with the audience understanding it as a tacit nod that from now on, we know how the series is going to end.Mitchell Hadleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08695771505209080030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-2077739131410720582023-04-12T18:21:52.993-04:002023-04-12T18:21:52.993-04:00Good point!Good point!Mitchell Hadleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08695771505209080030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-82815417640745314592023-04-11T17:06:25.495-04:002023-04-11T17:06:25.495-04:00D-Day at Stalag 13 (season 3 I think) could stand ...D-Day at Stalag 13 (season 3 I think) could stand as a last episode since there is no chronological order to the show. The war was over in less than a year. So at some point, Klink would wake up in an empty camp, save for the guards (maybe the guys would have taken Shultz with them). I have an idea for a sequel. Fast forward a decade later, Hogan and his former Heroes are recruited to rescue Nimrod from East Germany. For that he needs help from Klink, now a bank manager and Shultz, the owner of a toy company. Who Nimrod is will be a surprise.James McGrailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11690828148447506956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-37280816209315726432022-06-11T22:44:33.097-04:002022-06-11T22:44:33.097-04:00If Shultzy had a toy company he wouldn't have ...If Shultzy had a toy company he wouldn't have been a guard at the camp. He would have been making war materiel. You don't take an industrialist and have him walking a post at a pow camp. He would have been too valuable for that. Like Krupp and others he would have been rubbing elbows with the big shots. Of course by the end of the war there may have been precious little left of his factories. At least any that were in big cities but depending on what he was producing for the war he may have had underground factories. Forget about Shultz being head of the Shotsy Toy Company. It was a mistake made by the writers. In addition to producing war materiel he would have been paying for fatso Goering's lavish lifestyle and no doubt working with Albert Speer, Minister of Arms and War Production. Scott Currierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12637699849169027419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-60386397625621793772022-06-11T22:34:20.019-04:002022-06-11T22:34:20.019-04:00What you say is interesting. I had never caught on...What you say is interesting. I had never caught onto that. But Hogan was allegedly part of the 509th Composite Group. There were people in the 509th with criminal records who had them torn up after they successfully dropped the two atomic bombs. This is according to a couple of books on the Manhattan project. Scott Currierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12637699849169027419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-89885547228548806412022-06-11T22:31:41.821-04:002022-06-11T22:31:41.821-04:00There is a problem with Shultz. He's a great c...There is a problem with Shultz. He's a great character but the writers seem to have goofed. In one episode it is revealed that he was the owner / big boss as the largest toy manufacturer in Germany. How does one explain how an industrialist who would be of much better use to the third reich manufacturing war materiel ends up as a guard at a POW camp? Also, how can you explain how an industrialist, the top dog at a major corporation acts like Sgt. Shultz? You can't. If Shultz had really been an industrialist, if he was against the regime he would have been shot. Otherwise he would be putting his talents to use for the war effort and being Sergeant of the guard at a Luftwaffe POW camp is not where he would have been doing it. The writers did not think that episode through. Scott Currierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12637699849169027419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-71775190971719763772022-03-24T22:45:25.307-04:002022-03-24T22:45:25.307-04:00They implied (or outright said) a couple times tha...They implied (or outright said) a couple times that Hogan was a con man before the war, which really makes him ideal for his job in Stallag 13, the biggest con of all time. Of course his accomplishments would still have been top secret. Most covert ops from WW2 were classified after the war, some are *still* classified, just in case the military ever has to use those tricks again. So pretty much no one would ever know what he did.<br />I've always kind of liked the idea that after the war, Hogan goes back to his criminal ways, but as a bit of a robin hood, never hurting anyone, and only going after people that really deserved it. Dishonest politicians, mob bosses, dirty cops, things like that.<br />I've also always suspected that he kept in touch with Schultz, you know, birthday cards and such, and that he looked after Klink. I don't think they'd be friends, but I think he'd keep anything bad from happening to him, just out of obligation.<br />Is that stupid? Mahatma Randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107695677530467614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-1255716984775019462022-01-14T23:32:07.107-05:002022-01-14T23:32:07.107-05:00Beautiful, Beautiful, Beautiful! I love your final...Beautiful, Beautiful, Beautiful! I love your finale scene with the Helmet and Hat!.... Credits roll as the March begins!!!David in Chicagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07071363381932695134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-968572892694095152020-12-24T18:41:53.299-05:002020-12-24T18:41:53.299-05:00In the final episode, the Allies storm the camp an...In the final episode, the Allies storm the camp and take Klink prisoner. Just as he is about to be led away, Hogan pulls a gun and grabs him, yelling, "This man tortured my people...I'll deal with him MYSELF!"<br /><br />Hogan drags him away and the two men hide behind a barracks. "OK, Klink, I'll create a diversion and you run for it! Go back to where you came from!"<br /><br />Klink smiles and says, "That would be Lancashire, old boy," in a north Midlands accent. Hogan is shocked, and Klink coolly pulls out a cigarette and lights it. "You know, Colonel, it feels so *good* to finally speak the *King's* again...!"<br /><br />The troops who had taken Klink in the first place, all Brits, come around the corner and laugh. "Colonel Hogan," says Klink, saluting, "allow me to *finally* introduce myself...Colonel Malcolm Stewart, MI6...!"<br /><br />Hogan returns the salute and laughs. "You son of a...!"RMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06094584962671073162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-26304607363126427772020-12-18T18:51:05.399-05:002020-12-18T18:51:05.399-05:00I read (and in my younger days, wrote) HH fanfic. ...I read (and in my younger days, wrote) HH fanfic. I don’t remember this line from the show, but there are several Fanfic stories where Hogan said he came in the camp by the front door, and that’s how he intends to leave.Susan Macdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726411418250746026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-4957291283100219502020-12-17T10:23:10.010-05:002020-12-17T10:23:10.010-05:00Interesting. I loved the show. I suppose your wrap...Interesting. I loved the show. I suppose your wrap up is as good as any of the others in the comments, given that it never actually happened. <br /><br />The real Stalag 13 was nothing like Luft Stalag 13 in the show, other than approx. location. Assuming we follow the general outline of history, Hogan and his Heroes would have been liberated on April 6, 1945 by an American tank battalion. I'd assume by that time the guards would have, indeed, given up without much of a fight and in a comedy, they sure would have. The fate of the Germans would be mostly a slow processing out under the American provisional government. With the testimony of Hogan and the rest, both Shultz and Klink would return to civilian life, living out the rest of their lives in relative peace and prosperity.<br /><br />Hogan himself, being a full Colonel was surely a career man. He would have easily made General and moved among the upper echelons of the U.S. government, perhaps taking a path to the presidency. He was surely good at schmoozing, a necessary talent for such things.<br /><br />LeBeau would opt out and open a fancy eating establishment in the heart of Paris, eventually becoming a world famous restaurateur as well as an impresario.<br /><br />Carter would go to Officer Candidate School, become a Civil Engineer in the new U.S. Air Force and in time, be posted to the Air Force Academy, teaching Explosive Ordnance Disposal. <br /><br />Baker leaves the military before desegregation, gets elected to local office in his hometown and becomes involved in the civil rights movement.<br /><br />Newkirk leaves the military and first becomes an entertainer, investing in various businesses, all of which become extremely successful due in no small part to his eclectic skills. By the mid 50s he is a millionaire. Eventually, Peter Newkirk is a major mover in the hotel and entertainment business, known worldwide for his many accomplishments.BONFYR VERBOOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13784619905975525303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-89162054158727343552020-12-16T14:13:33.955-05:002020-12-16T14:13:33.955-05:00I've had this discussion several times and cam...I've had this discussion several times and came up with the idea of Schultz and Klink getting captured. Schultz strikes a deal with the U.S. government and goes back to his toy company (providing toys for U.S. families until his dept is paid off.) Klink not only receives a light sentence (due to Hogan's influence) but is actually COMMENDED for his incompetence. During the trail Hogan explains that Knink was aware of his goings on and faked his incompetence as to not put the mission, or his own position in jeopardy which allowed Hogan and his men to accomplish their missions successfully. Of course Klink knew nothing about this and naturally plays along, however this is the first time he learns about Hogan, his men and the entire operation during the trial. <br />"Colonel Klink, so you knew about this operation all along?"<br />"Did I?"<br />Klink looks at Hogan who nods his head.<br />"Oh, did I? Yes, yes, yes! Of course, yes! I knew it all along!" Progrocktvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01818791352401158156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-53813009832346670822020-12-16T13:52:34.414-05:002020-12-16T13:52:34.414-05:00Actually, there's a reference to an event in M...Actually, there's a reference to an event in March,1945 in the final aired episode of the series - which was about 6 weeks before the Nazi Germany surrender - so there's a chance they knew when it aired the series was going to end. Yes, there had been some in and out-of-chronological order historical references dropped through the run (but then let's not forget COMBAT! had five seasons between D-Day and The Tail end of the War in Europe!) But this seems placed in the script as a "just in case". "T.V. Barnum"https://www.blogger.com/profile/00475339068236956242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-59879899239730866872020-12-16T11:30:49.987-05:002020-12-16T11:30:49.987-05:00From AV Club - https://tv.avclub.com/hogan-s-heroe...From AV Club - https://tv.avclub.com/hogan-s-heroes-unceremonious-finale-comes-from-the-era-1798237542Robscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06236615422574045423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-81707566541306285012020-12-09T07:15:57.944-05:002020-12-09T07:15:57.944-05:00Okay, the final episode is as follows; We open on ...Okay, the final episode is as follows; We open on Stalag 13 and there is excitement; the guards are packing up and preparing to move out. There is the constant sound of war in the distance. Klink is saying good bye to Hogan and the prisoners. Wishing them well as they are about to be liberated. Hogan makes a few wise cracks and invites Schultz and Klink to stick around as they champagne on ice. Klink gets huffy and prepares to leave. Hogan finally relents and takes Klink on a tour of what Schultz knows nothing about. Klink is amazed at what is underground and is a bit angry for being made a fool of. Better than being dead like Burkehalter or captured like Hockstedder. Cut to Klink shaking hands with Hogan as he gets into his car. As the car drives out through the open gate, the camera pulls back to show a TV production crew filming the last episode. As the camera pans around we see an older Robert Hogan and older Klink talking to reporters. Klink is trying to tell them that it is only a comedy. He was not as obtuse as the character you've just seen on TV. Hogan agrees but with a wink and nudge. As Hogan and Klink walk through the open gates to their waiting limo, they talk about the upcoming reunion and getting together with the boys, if Schultz can find the time away from his factory.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03355921505911143207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-57579297560261922862020-12-07T11:07:40.827-05:002020-12-07T11:07:40.827-05:00For me a final episode would have to include Schul...For me a final episode would have to include Schultz returning to the toy company - probably now destroyed by allied bombers - with Klink having been offered an accounting job at the company. Could have Hogan with them telling them he'll make sure they're able to rebuild as things like toys and hope will be some of the most important things needed as the world recovers from the war. <br /><br />I also like the comment above regarding the helmet and Air Force cover for the final credits. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11844873425452928330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-51679595003807188462020-02-19T18:00:34.204-05:002020-02-19T18:00:34.204-05:00Klink is at last revealed as "Nimrod", t...Klink is at last revealed as "Nimrod", the most effective resistance agent in Germany. Hogan, stunned, shakes his hand.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15566518901169072411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-25774967387808698662019-11-05T00:00:22.236-05:002019-11-05T00:00:22.236-05:00The camp sirens blare loudly, but guards are setti...The camp sirens blare loudly, but guards are setting their rifles down and stand back at attention.<br />Klink storms from the office: SCHULTZ, WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS?!!!<br />"Commandant, the camp is being taken by members of the, uh, Colonel Hogan, what's the name of that unit again?"<br />"Oh, just a few friends from the 206 Airborne, Aye Brigade."<br />"That's the one, mine here."<br />Klink puts his hands up: Oh, fine. I give up.<br />A young GI, Tommy gun level in hand approaches. "I have orders to report to a Colonel Robert Hogan."<br />"That's me."<br />The others of the Hogan's Heroes crew gather near along with several chummy GI troopers.<br />"Sir, your new commission," the lead GI says, handing Hogan a ribboned envelope.<br />"And it's my honor to salute Brigadeer General Robert Hogan, commander of German occupied sector 13!" the GI adds saluting.<br />Each of the other Hogan's Heroes crew follow suit with comments of their own:<br />"Blimey, it's about time"<br />"Couldn't happen to a nicer guy"<br />"Vive le generalle!"<br />"Congratulations, sir"<br />"Sir," the GI suddenly tenses up.<br />"This camp seargent is still armed!!!"<br />Hogan considers Schultz, standing by, rifle in hand. ""You mean Schultz?"<br />Schultz, embarrassed, Huddle's closer to Hogan, extending the rifle personally to him. "Speaking for me, I have always preferred toys."<br />Hogan takes the rifle with a wink. "So have I, my old friend. So have I"<br />Scene cuts to a German Colonel's arm placing an ole WW1 helmet on a table, then an American Colonel's arm places a US Air Force cover on it as closing theme music sounds out for the final credits to start rolling . . .<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351612798570601157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6042603612494762084.post-81430710427217841102019-11-04T23:18:44.604-05:002019-11-04T23:18:44.604-05:00A smart final episode would have hinted at the Bat...A smart final episode would have hinted at the Battle of the Bulge, maybe including a snide offer from Hogan to help with the transfer of operations to arriving American GIs, the final scene showing the downward drift of parachuting spec ops guys: give Clink or Shultz an appropriate last line as all watch the landing young soldiers and camp guards are laying down their arms.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351612798570601157noreply@blogger.com